Senator NASH (New South Wales—Deputy Leader of The Nationals in the Senate and Assistant Minister for Health) (14:59): I do note that there has been a range of commentary around these issues, but I will say that it is this government that is actually focused on a big-picture future for this nation. It is this government that is focused on the national interest. The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. I have two senators on their feet. I will go to the manager. The manager has deferred to Senator Polley. Senator Polley: Mr President, I rise on a point of order on relevance. I would ask you to call the minister to answer the question and make it relevant to the question. She has avoided saying anything at all about the up-front fees. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Polley. The minister is only 15 seconds into her answer. Senator NASH: This coalition government has put policies in place. We believe that taking modest reforms to the Australian people is the appropriate thing to do to ensure that we have a sustainable future when it comes to the health system. The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Moore, a point of order? Senator Moore: Thank you, Mr President; it is on direct relevance. The specific question was about the cost and the number of patients who will be affected by the increased cost. The minister now only has 30 seconds. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Thank you. Minister, I remind you of the question; you have 31 seconds in which to answer. Senator NASH: I am not going to speculate on a hypothetical question from the opposition. We are bringing the policies into place to ensure that we have a sustainable health system into the future, unlike the previous Labor government, which simply had no plan for the future of this nation. Senator Abetz: Mr President, I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.