Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate, Vice-President of the Executive Council, Minister for Arts and Attorney-General) (14:30): Senator Milne, I take it that your question is an intended reference to the remarks that the foreign minister made that were reported in the papers yesterday about the importance of having a rational discussion—a 'rational discussion': two words very unfamiliar to the Greens, I know—about nuclear energy in this country. May I say, Senator Milne, in view of your advocacy of alternative energy sources I wonder why it is that the Greens party are so theologically opposed to the possibility of a rational discussion of all options? The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. A point of order, Senator Milne? Senator Milne: Yes, Mr President, my point of order is relevance. I asked specifically about Australia's intended nationally determined contribution. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Milne. The minister has one minute and 16 seconds remaining to answer the question. I remind the minister of the question. Senator BRANDIS: Senator Milne, I am not going to acquaint you with the Australian government's negotiating brief in Lima, but I can tell you what the Australian government's position in relation to this matter is. The government is committed to ensuring that Australians have ongoing access to reliable and competitively priced energy. We are also committed to acting on climate change domestically, as well as internationally. It is important that all energy options are on the table for discussion, and that was the point I was trying to make to you, Senator Milne. And it applies in international fora, by the way, just as much as it applies in domestic fora. Senator Milne interjecting— Senator BRANDIS: And do not shake your head at me, Senator Milne, because it is your party that steadfastly, resolutely, zealously and theologically refuses to countenance even the possibility of a public discussion of all options. Now, Senator Milne, Australia is currently undertaking an energy white paper process, which will include a thorough consideration of traditional sources, including coal and gas. But as well, it will include the role of renewables and other low-emission energy sources, including nuclear. (Time expired)