Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:04): I reject the premise of that question, but can I say that I am not in the circumstances that I saw and observed over a long period of time with the shadow minister, where he was accepting the largesse of three commercial television stations and then of course awarded them some $250 million. I have not done that. May I say that when a foreign defence minister—I have done more than 40 bilaterals with defence officials— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Cameron on a point of order. Senator Cameron: Mr President, I raise a point of order. The question goes clearly to the use of power for privilege. I would like a response on the misuse of power for privilege. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron, the minister rejected the premise of your question up-front. Minister, you have the call. Senator JOHNSTON: I am extremely proud of what Australians have done in France in two world wars, and when the French defence minister comes here I am very pleased to extend hospitality to him, as I— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. A point of order, Senator Cameron? Senator Cameron: Mr President, I raise a point of order. The minister has gone nowhere near the question, which says that soldiers who travel on official business can only claim up to $47. The minister should go to that point. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Cameron. The minister has rejected the premise of your question. Minister, you have concluded your answer? Senator JOHNSTON: Yes. The PRESIDENT: The minister has concluded his answer. Senator Cameron, a final supplementary question?