Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:25): I understand that the makers of Sea Patrol are in some real strife because there have been no boats arriving for the past 95 days, so they will not have as much material to deal with as they used to, according to Senator Hanson-Young. If I can turn to the kernel of her question about the uncertainty and the treatment, I can say to the honourable senator that in those 95 days that no boats have arrived we can also be relatively certain that there have been no drownings at sea. Senator Kim Carr: How do you know that? It's all top secret! How would you know? Senator ABETZ: That is why I said 'relatively certain' because when you open the floodgates—and I can understand Senator Carr's sensitivity here, because it was Labor's policy that saw over 1,000 people drowned at sea, courtesy of the criminal people smugglers whose enterprises the Labor Party unwittingly— (Time expired)