Senator KIM CARR (Victoria) (14:33): Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. Can the minister confirm that according to the Australian Public Service Commission, of the 14,273 non-ongoing staff employed in the Australian Public Service, almost 1,000 are employed in Customs, border protection and immigration? Will staff cuts of this dimension compromise front-line immigration and border protection services? Senator Abetz: Answer no. Senator Wong: You have to tell her that? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Conroy: There's silence over here! The PRESIDENT: Yes, I know there is silence on my left; I am waiting for my right to be silent so that Senator Cash can be heard.