Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (14:08): To the shadow Treasurer's question let me first say this: you never accept a purported fact from the opposition when it is brought into this parliament during question time, because you always find out on analysis that what is being said is not right—part of a fear campaign. For example, I have just been given the media release of Aeropelican and Brindabella Airlines, who talk about— Opposition members interjecting— Mr Pyne: Madam Deputy Speaker, a point of order. The DEPUTY SPEAKER ( Ms AE Burke ): Order! The Manager of Opposition Business is rising on a point of order of relevance. I was actually going to ask the Prime Minister to answer the question before her. The Prime Minister has the call and will be relevant to the question. Ms GILLARD: Yes, I will, Deputy Speaker. I know, of course, that you cannot in front of this opposition bring a fact into the building—they get hysterical. So we will deal with their misleading about Brindabella Airlines at the end of question time. But I do draw people's attention to the press release. On the question that I have been asked—which, when we look into it, I am sure will turn out to be equally misleading, because that is what the opposition does on carbon pricing—as the shadow Treasurer would be aware, we have spoken to the Australian people about local government and carbon pricing: about the very, very modest impact and about how the impact on rates has been modelled into the anticipated price rises of 0.7 per cent. That is less than a dollar in a $100. Of course, what the shadow Treasurer does not want to tell Australians is that the assistance that is being made available—the payments for 3.2 million pensioners, the family payment increases for 1.5 million, the tax reduction, and the shadow Treasurer has been very clear about this—all of these things will be taken away by the shadow Treasurer. Money ripped out of the hands of working Australians raising children; money ripped out of the hands of Australians who are benefiting from a triple tax-free threshold; money ripped out of the hands of pensioners, and many of them better off as a result of the assistance that is being received. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Leader of the Opposition on a point of order? Mr Abbott: Yes, Madam Deputy Speaker. A million dollars increase for Sydney council, a half a million dollars for Wollongong and other councils. Government members interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! The Leader of the Opposition will sit down! The Leader of the Opposition has made his point of order. It is relevance. Points of order are not opportunities for debate. If they continue to be abused I will exclude people from the chamber. The Prime Minister has the call and will be relevant to the question before her. Ms GILLARD: Thank you very much, Deputy Speaker, and on relevance it is relevant that the price impact is 0.7 per cent, less than a cent in a dollar; it is relevant that families are receiving assistance; and it is relevant that the Leader of the Opposition wants to take every dollar of that assistance away from hardworking Australian families and from Australian pensioners. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for North Sydney on a supplementary question? Mr Hockey: No, it is even better than a supplementary. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Even better? The member for North Sydney has the call. Mr Hockey: I seek leave to table the published list of increases in council fees associated with your carbon tax. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for North Sydney will resume his seat! Leave is not granted. The member for North Sydney is seeking leave to table— Mr Hockey: I seek leave to table a statement from Brindabella Airlines, from the chief operating officer identifying that the final nail in the coffin for us— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leave is not granted. The member for North Sydney! Mr Hockey: is a carbon tax. You didn't even quote the right document! The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for North Sydney will resume his seat! Mr Hockey interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for North Sydney is warned! The Leader of the House? Mr Albanese: Madam Deputy Speaker, yes, I will allow him to table half the bit, because he has ripped off the top half that says that they are going to charters. Table it! Table it! The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Leader of the House will resume his seat. The member for Sturt! Mr Hockey interjecting— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for North Sydney has been warned!