Senator PAYNE (New South Wales) (14:06): Mr President, I ask a supplementary question to the minister. Western Sydney is where I live and where I work. In light of the comments of former Labor identity and senator, Graham Richardson, that Ms Gillard's trip to Western Sydney might actually harm Labor's re-election chances, and Senator Doug Cameron's remarks that the former Prime Minister Rudd is a vital campaign tool because of his ability to spread the Labor message, wouldn't the Prime Minister be better off asking Kevin Rudd to campaign for her in Western Sydney? Honourable senators interjecting— Senator Conroy: Seriously, you had no health, no education. Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Conroy, just resume your seat. Senators on my right and left, order! Just sit down. When senators have resumed silence we will proceed. It is as simple as that.