Senator IAN MACDONALD (Queensland) (12:57): I want to take a few minutes to add to the concerns— Senator Jacinta Collins: Madam Acting Deputy President, I rise of a point of order. You were aware that I was seeking the call. As I understand it, in terms of general precedence in the chamber, the call should have been given to me. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT ( Senator McKenzie ): I understand what you are saying, Senator Collins; however, previously three of you jumped up seeking the call at the same time: Senator Xenophon, Senator Macdonald and yourself. I was simply following that. I will seek advice on the precedence. Senator Ian Macdonald: Madam Acting Deputy President, on the point of order: the minister does not even want discussion on this motion of guillotine to expose the evilness of a government that will not allow proper debate. Madam Acting Deputy President, you made the right ruling. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald, you are now actually debating— Senator Ian Macdonald: I am just talking on the point of order. I am saying that previously you called Senator Xenophon in preference to me. You could have called me in preference to Senator Xenophon, but you did not, appropriately. I agree with your ruling that I should be the next person to speak. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: In order with the conventions of the Senate, the call will be with Senator Collins.