Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:32): It is true that the Victorian situation is the most dire. What we have seen in Victoria is that the government have removed $300 million from the system, an absolute savaging of the TAFE system. At a time when they say they are committed to training and skilling, they rip $300 million out. Leaked Victorian Liberal-National cabinet documents— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! There is a debate going on which makes it difficult to hear the answer. Senator Marshall is entitled to hear the answer. Senator CHRIS EVANS: Leaked cabinet documents on the weekend showed the impacts of those cuts by the Liberal-National government. We are seeing campuses threatened to be closed around Victoria. We are seeing courses closed. We are seeing increases in student fees of 100 per cent and more, complete devastation of a range of TAFEs. This will impact on those students and their capacity to get a chance. The Victorian government must rethink this terrible attack on the TAFE system. (Time expired)