Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (14:07): Of course what I accept is the analysis of Treasury about the impacts for households, and as a result of that analysis we are providing the money I have just spoken about in the form of tax cuts and pension increases and family payment increases. But the Leader of the Opposition is obviously very interested in the words of the Energy Supply Association of Australia. What they have said is that uncertainty over carbon pricing—that is, the reckless scare campaign of the Leader of the Opposition and his very futile promises to remove carbon pricing; something he will in fact never do—is having an impact on electricity. The Energy Supply Association have said: We're concerned that if there is any uncertainty around a future price of carbon it will affect the ability for electricity generators to invest. And that it will also impact on their ability to offer— Mr Abbott: Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order which goes to direct relevance. I asked about the Energy Users Association, not the Energy Supply Association. This is about the people who use power, the Australian public, who are being— The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister has the call to answer the supplementary question. Ms GILLARD: I am addressing issues about electricity pricing. The Leader of the Opposition professes concern but does not want to deal with the facts out of the Treasury modelling. He professes concern but he wants to rip assistance out of the hands of working Australians. He professes concern but he does not acknowledge that the uncertainty that he is creating is also bad for electricity supply, bad for pricing and bad for Australian families. The Leader of the Opposition ought to acknowledge that.