Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:03): First, in relation to landfill, which is one of the issues that was raised, I would make the point that, despite the scare campaign of those opposite, the vast majority of landfills in the majority of local councils in Australia will have no liability under the carbon price. It is the case that the Clean Energy Regulator has found that, based upon current information, about 34 out of 559 local governments will be liable. Those landfills big enough to be liable will never have to pay for emissions for waste deposited prior to 1 July 2012 and those— Senator Brandis: Mr President, I rise on a point of order that goes to direct relevance. The question was carefully phrased to ask whether there were changes not requiring legislation in relation to landfills. All the minister has done is recite the existing policy in relation to landfills. The question was about whether there were to be changes to that policy. That is what Senator Williams is interested in knowing and it is the only aspect of this issue to which the question was directed. The PRESIDENT: I believe the minister is answering the question, and the minister has 22 seconds remaining. Senator WONG: I was asked about two issues and I am responding in relation to one of them. I was going to go on to say that in relation to landfill the government has made rules deeming landfill emissions in 2012-13 to be zero. So there will be no obligation to buy and surrender carbon permits in the 2012-13 year. In relation to LPG and LNG— (Time expired)