Senator BOSWELL (Queensland) (14:53): My question is to the Minister representing the Minister for Sustainability, Environment, Water, Population and Communities, Senator Conroy. I refer the minister to the fact that Australia has the world's third largest ocean territory, at 8.5 million square kilometres, but from our territory we extract less than 30 kilograms of marine catch per square kilometre. Because of this we import 70 per cent of our seafood from other nations. We import the most from Thailand, who extract almost 6,000 kilograms of marine catch from their oceans—more than 200 times the rate of our extraction. Why is the government simply exporting an environmental issue to another country by further shutting down Australia's fishing industry through its declaration of 1.3 million square kilometres of marine reserve parks? And what guarantees can the government give that the lower fishing production in Australia will not simply be displaced to other countries with a less enviable environmental record? Senator Chris Evans: On a point of order, Mr President: at the risk of making a habit of this, the minister for fisheries, Minister Ludwig, is in the chamber and, quite frankly, is probably better placed to answer that question as most of it goes to Fisheries. Senator Conroy is happy to take it but, as the fisheries minister is— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator Chris Evans: The question was all about fisheries catch and the impact on the fishing industry. But if you would rather have an answer from Senator Conroy, in representing the environment minister, we are very relaxed. I was just trying to help Senator Boswell. The PRESIDENT: I call the Minister representing the Minister for Sustainability, Environment, Water, Population and Communities, Senator Conroy.