Senator KIM CARR (Victoria—Minister for Human Services) (14:56): With regard to shipping reform, the Australian government takes the view that we are opening up opportunities, not restricting them. We are ensuring that there will be more ships plying Australian waters. We are able to ensure that costs can be contained in a proper manner which provides proper job security for Australian workers and for them to be employed under decent conditions. In fact, as far as Tasmanians are concerned— Senator Colbeck: Mr President, a point of order on relevance: my question specifically related to what action the government would take to ensure that Tasmania was not disadvantaged in relation to the supply and price of fuel. It had nothing to do with what the minister has been rambling on about. Senator Jacinta Collins: Mr President, on the point of order: the minister is addressing the principal question that was raised by Senator Colbeck, which was on shipping reform. The minister's reference to that has been directly relevant and, in dealing with the supplementary, he is able to draw on the primary question. Senator Abetz: Mr President, on the point of order: when you rule could you indicate for the benefit of the Manager of Government Business that, under sessional orders, when you have a supplementary question your answer has to be directly relevant to that supplementary question and that you cannot go back to the initial question and try to keep answering that because you want to avoid the specific supplementary question. The PRESIDENT: The minister is required to address the question that has been asked by Senator Colbeck. I draw your attention to the question. The minister has 33 seconds remaining to answer the question. Senator KIM CARR: It would appear that Senator Colbeck is basing his assertions on the modelling that was undertaken by Deloitte Access Economics. The report is based on a whole lot of false assumptions. It assumes, for instance, that people should be able to operate in breach of the law. That is not the basis on which to run a modern economy. It is not the basis on which to ensure that we get a fair go for Australian workers. Senator Colbeck, if you assume that Tasmania is going to be protected on the basis of breaking the law, you are wrong. (Time expired)