Senator COLBECK (Tasmania) (15:53): Mr Deputy President, I seek leave to make a short statement. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Leave is granted for two minutes. Senator COLBECK: As much as it grieves me, I have to agree with Senator Milne about the importance of clauses 25, 26 and 27, which demonstrate what a ridiculous agreement the Commonwealth government has signed with the states and how it is based on flawed information that was provided to it by Professor Jonathan West, who advised the Commonwealth government and the state governments during the negotiation of the IGA that there would not be any need to log in the 430,000 hectares. Senator Ludwig interjecting— Senator COLBECK: If you would like to read the report, you might understand that. Again Senator Ludwig shows his complete lack of understanding of the agreement that the Commonwealth has negotiated with the Tasmanian government and how flawed the whole process has been. Senator Ludwig interjecting— Senator COLBECK: The clauses are important and that is why I asked him about this on Monday. He had no idea then and he has got no idea about it now—and yelling out across the chamber does not actually indicate any understanding of this process at all. This whole process is a corporate strategy that has been put in place by one company with the Greens. It is flawed and it will not provide for reasonable forestry or environmental outcomes, because what it is effectively going to do is cram what is left of the forest industry into a smaller area and set it up for failure four or five years down the track. The minister has so little understanding of his portfolio that he does not understand the basic principles of what he is doing to the forest industry in Tasmania. His whole panel is stacked with close associates of the Wilderness Society, so he is getting flawed advice from that. He will not talk to the forest professionals from around the country, so he has no understanding of what this program is going to do—no understanding at all—and all he is doing is setting up the Tasmanian forest industry for failure in a few years, and we will not stand for it. (Time expired) Question put: That the amendment (Senator Colbeck's) be agreed to. The Senate divided. [15:59] (The President—Senator Hogg) Question negatived. The PRESIDENT: The question now is that Senator Milne and Senator Bob Brown's motion be agreed to. Question agreed to. Senator Colbeck: Mr Deputy President, I seek a point of clarification on that last question put by the President. I am just clarifying that the government is supporting the Greens motion because my impression from Senator Ludwig's statement was that he was not supporting the Greens motion. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: The question was called in the affirmative on the voices, but I am happy to put the question again, as there were people crossing the chamber at the time. The question is that the substantive motion put by Senator Milne and Senator Brown be agreed to. The Senate divided. [16:07] (The Deputy President—Senator Parry) Question negatived.