Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:32): The assertions, again, in the question are incorrect. The senator continues to suggest that, for example, the mining industry is going to be somehow damaged or killed by this carbon price. Senator Ian Macdonald: Why don't you ask the mining industry? Senator Cameron: They're too busy investing! Senator WONG: Senator, why don't we have a look at what the mining industry are investing, have a look at how the investment has grown year on year over the last three years, in the context of a debate around a price on carbon. I would probably have a look at where the hard cash is, where the numbers are, rather than rely on Senator Joyce telling everybody that mining was going to— Senator Joyce: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. It is on relevance. The minister could answer the question by answering it and just releasing the modelling. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. The minister has 19 seconds remaining. Senator WONG: We have released an enormous amount of modelling. The reality is no amount of modelling released by the government will ever alter the position of those opposite, and they should stop pretending to people that they actually care what the modelling says. The modelling says we will have more jobs. The modelling says we will have a bigger economy. (Time expired)