Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:52): Senator Joyce is opposed to pricing carbon. He does not want to accept the advice of scientists and he does not want to accept the advice of economists about the best way to deal with climate change. So there is a fundamental difference of opinion in this chamber— Senator Brandis: Which economist? One that agrees with you? Senator WONG: I will take Senator Brandis's interjection about the economist, because there is no economist who supports his plan. That is because it is a plan that will cost more and will not work. (Time expired)