Senator CARR ( Victoria — Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research ) ( 14:37 ): Ministers in this government know that the resources rent tax has been the basis on which we can ensure that company tax rates can be reduced to 29 per cent. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! If people want to debate the issue, the time is after question time. Senator CARR: What this government is doing is providing the wherewithal to support new investment. What this government is doing is providing the support for small business so it can move through these difficult periods and ensure its own future. This is a government that knows about how firms can regroup, reskill and redevelop opportunities. Unlike those opposite, who have shown nothing but contempt for the industries that have to go through this period of adjustment, we are in the business of taking practical measures to ensure the future of Australian industry and to ensure the future of high-skilled, high-wage jobs in this country. You, on the other hand, Senator Abetz, have not even signed up to any measures to support manufacturing, to support the steel industry or to support our major companies. (Time expired) Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Macdonald, I am waiting to call on someone on your side to ask a question. Senator Fawcett.