Senator CARR (Victoria—Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) (14:57): Perhaps I could remind Senator Cash that the message that we are sending is that we will ensure that those who are plying the people-smuggling trade will be strenuously opposed. We are, on the other hand, very keen to increase Australia's humanitarian impact. We are helping improve the treatment of refugees throughout the region, and we are quite genuinely contributing to a regional solution on these issues. What I can also remind senators opposite is that, under their proposal, 95 per cent of those who ended up in Nauru— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Just sit down, Senator Carr. The time for debating this, I remind the chamber, is after question time. Senator CARR: Of those people who were left to rot on Nauru, 95 per cent were found to be refugees and ended up settling in Australia and New Zealand. So the claims made by those opposite when they were in government were demonstrably untrue. In fact, we had a 95 per cent failure rate— (Time expired)