Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Jobs and Workplace Relations and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:07): The only political interference I have seen in this matter in the last few months is the suggestion that improper influence has been used in relation to the New South Wales minster for police. That is the only allegation that I have seen that relates to political interference in these matters. This government has allowed proper process to occur and has allowed the appropriate authorities to pursue those proper processes without political interference. We have not been ringing up our mates saying: 'Can you have a chat to the police commissioner? Can you do me a favour and have a chat to him.' We have not been operating like that. We have said people are allowed the presumption of innocence and the appropriate authorities ought to be allowed to do their jobs without that interference. There will be no mates arrangements in relation to authorities from this government. What we seem to see in New South Wales is that sort of arrangement and I think it is most inappropriate. Senator Ronaldson: Mr President, a point of order on relevance: I have put to the minister that he interfered inappropriately in the Senate estimates process in February and I am yet to have any response to that at all. The minister is acutely aware of the fact that he refused to allow Mr Nassios from Fair Work Australia to answer my question. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. The minister has seven seconds remaining. Senator CHRIS EVANS: Senator Ronaldson may now seek to slur me, but he does understand that Fair Work Australia got proper legal advice and acted on that advice. (Time expired)