Mr TED O'BRIEN (Fairfax—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:17): My question is to the Treasurer. Following last week's interest rate rise, respected TV— Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Member for Wannon, I can't hear the question. If both sides of the chamber can cease interjecting, we'll reset and the deputy leader will start his question again, out of respect for him. Mr TED O'BRIEN: My question is to the Treasurer. Following last week's interest rate rise, respected TV finance guru Kochie sent a direct message to the Treasurer, saying: 'Mate, you've got to tighten your belt. You've told all of us to tighten our belts to fight inflation. You didn't, and so you are responsible for this interest rate rise.' The Treasurer has dismissed the views of scores of economists, and now even the Reserve Bank governor. Will he at least concede Kochie has a point? Mr Husic interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Chifley will cease interjecting, or he'll be warned.