Mr ALBANESE (Grayndler—Prime Minister) (14:17): My plan is to implement the AUKUS arrangements that we are committed to. I'll do that for a range of reasons. I'll do that primarily, though, for one reason, which is that it is in the Australian national interest for us to have the best defence assets that are possibly available to Australia. When we have briefings, I am happy to arrange for appropriate briefings for the member for Goldstein on these matters. If you are an island continent located where we are, the best asset you can possibly have is a submarine. But. importantly, you have to then ask yourself: what is the best form of submarine in terms of stealth and in terms of capacity to go long distances while not having to snort and rise to the surface and what is the best way that you can ensure that you are not detectable? The answer to that is nuclear powered submarines. That is something that we have supported because we think it is absolutely essential for Australia's national interest. Ms Daniel: I rise on a point of order. The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister was asked about the AUKUS deal and the relationship with the US. He is giving exactly the answer to the question that the member asked. But members are entitled to raise one point of order on relevance and the member has the call. Ms Daniel: It is on relevance. The question went to either the capacity or the willingness of the US to deliver such subs. The SPEAKER: As I said, the Prime Minister is directly talking about the topic he was asked about. He couldn't be more directly relevant. If he were talking about other agreements or other deals, he wouldn't be relevant, but, whilst he's talking about the topic he was asked about, he's within the standing orders. Mr ALBANESE: The AUKUS arrangements also have within them pillar II, and what that's about is the capacity for us to lift up our capacity for advanced manufacturing, for really the most high-tech manufacturing that you can have. One of the things about the defence industry is that there are spin-offs as well. I'm very committed to a future made in Australia. That's why the National Reconstruction Fund, for example, has a component in it about innovation for defence industries. Working with the United States, which is the most advanced in terms of, obviously, the largest military in the world, with the defence industries that they have, there are already Australian companies, such as Austal, for example, that are located there in the United States—a fantastic operation, of course, based in Western Australia primarily. That will bring great benefit to Australia. With regard to the support for the AUKUS arrangements in the United States and the UK, I've met with over 100 congresspeople and senators in the United States. There was overwhelming support from both Republican and Democrat people who are elected representatives. I have raised this issue in the discussions I've had with President Trump as well, and he has expressed his support, as, of course, has Prime Minister Starmer in the United Kingdom, who I had a talk with less than two weeks ago. So we will continue to put in place these arrangements because it is in Australia's national interest, and I'm confident that an important part of the defence of this country is the AUKUS arrangements.