Mr ALBANESE (Grayndler—Prime Minister) (14:09): I thank not just the Deputy Leader of the Opposition but their entire tactics committee for that question! We have been asked, 'Why is it that four-year or three-year apprenticeships haven't been completed?' We have three-year terms in this country. I support four-year terms, but we have three-year terms in this country. Therefore fee-free TAFE didn't begin years and years ago. It began when we came in last year. As a direct result, more than half a million Australians have benefited from fee-free TAFE. There have been 35,000 construction sector enrolments, 36,000 early childhood education enrolments, 49,000 technology and digital sector enrolments and 131,000 care sector enrolments. Thirty-five per cent of the enrolments have been in regional Australia. We're making sure that they get access. Those opposite, who never did anything for TAFE whatsoever, indeed call fee-free TAFE 'wasteful spending'. I'll tell you what's a waste: the waste of potential when people are held back from a job because they can't get the qualification that they need, the waste of experience when an older worker loses their job— The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister is talking and being directly relevant around the numbers and about fee-free TAFE so, in any objection, he would say that he is being directly relevant. If he wasn't talking about TAFE, he was talking about other topics. I'm going to listen to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition, just with that caveat that I have guided the House with. She will have the call, of course. Ms Ley: The point of order is on relevance, Mr Speaker. My question included, 'How much of the $1.5 billion has gone to courses that will never be completed?' The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister was asked a question about spending, and there was a specific figure that obviously the deputy leader is after. I understand that, and I respect that, but, whilst he's talking about fee-free TAFE and the numbers, he is being directly relevant to the question. If he strays off the topic, I'll make sure he returns to the question. The Prime Minister has the call. Mr ALBANESE: Thanks, Mr Speaker. I was interrupted when I was speaking about older workers retraining. When people lose their jobs, you can either leave them behind or you can give them a helping hand to retrain for jobs as our economy changes. That's why this is so important. It is a waste to waste the experience of those workers when, for example, the car industry was shut down, because those opposite told them to leave from this dispatch box. We think those people should not be left behind. I'll tell you what's a waste as well. It's a waste when housing projects can't get off the ground because there aren't the skilled workers to deal with them. It's a waste when businesses have to look overseas. A number of business leaders have lobbied to have imported labour because we can't provide the skilled workers here. What we're about is matching up the jobs of the future with the skills and training of today and the future. That's the right thing to do, and it is astonishing that those opposite don't get it.