Mr KATTER (Kennedy) (14:18): My question is to the Minister for the Environment and Water. EVs are fuelled by solar panels from China, where production and smelting belch out vast clouds of CO2. Ethanol motor vehicles emit CO2 but the sugarcane crop absorbs back these emissions. Minister, wasn't Morris Iemma right in introducing ethanol, referring to petrols as carcinogens? I won't go another day with peoples' deaths on my conscience—people that did not have to die. Brazil's petrol, at 49 per cent ethanol, sells for $1.10 a litre. Australia's petrol imports are $48 billion a year. Doesn't this magic-wand a richer, cleaner, more affordable Australia? The SPEAKER: Order! The member's walking stick, or whatever is there—regardless of age, there are no props available for anyone, walking or not.