Mr ALBANESE (Grayndler—Prime Minister) (15:12): If you have the view that they've been advocating for week after week, that they have been doing through their proxies through their extreme right wing little groups, funded by all those people running around during the Dunkley by-election, then they won't be the utes. That's their position as they go forward. They say there will not be any utes. They say that it will all go backwards. The fact is that what we have, as the member for Bradfield has repeatedly said when he was the minister, he put forward the case for the need to have proper emission standards. The SPEAKER: The member for Hume on a point of order? Mr Taylor: Relevance, Mr Speaker. It was a very specific question about fringe benefit tax on utes. The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister will return to the question. Mr ALBANESE: I'm talking about what we are doing, not what we're not doing. What we are doing is putting forward a sensible measure. We are putting forward a proposition which those opposite couldn't land over a whole decade. We are putting forward a proposition which, when we were the opposition and this minister approached this shadow minister for transport, we said yes, will provide support for this reform because it is in Australia's national interest. Because what you run appropriately on Australia's national interest is good reform, and that is what we are doing.