Mr GILES (Scullin—Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs) (14:16): I thank the Leader of the Opposition for his question. I say again that my thoughts are of course with all of the victims, all of those affected by the orders. In terms of that family, I've spoken a little bit about the VictimLink approach, but if the Leader of the Opposition has the relevant contact details, I would be very pleased to speak with any affected family members immediately after question time.