Mr BOWEN (McMahon—Minister for Climate Change and Energy) (14:30): I think by 'poles and wires across New South Wales', the honourable member must be referring to HumeLink. HumeLink is the link necessary to connect Snowy 2.0, which the previous government forgot to plug into the grid, which they forgot to connect to the grid. When you have a project, a good project—admittedly it's running 18-months late, but it could be running on time or later; it wouldn't really matter if it's not connected to the grid, which is what the previous government failed to do. But I always try to be fair about such matters. Credit where it's due: the former minister for energy did bring down a regulation to facilitate transmission, including specifically HumeLink. In that regulation, he said, 'Transmission is critical to deliver low-cost reliable and secure energy to consumers.' Mr Taylor: Not 28,000 kilometres, buddy. Mr BOWEN: I'll take the interjection from the former minister, who just said, 'It's not 28,000 kilometres.' Well, he did say, on 18 March this year: Thousands of kilometres of new transmission is likely to be needed to connect new generation, and deliver reliable and affordable energy across the national market. Thousands of kilometres he said were necessary. He just forgot to deliver any.