Mr FALINSKI (Mackellar) (16:16): Australia needs an Albanese government like it needs another hole in the head. That's how bad that idea is! The fact of the matter remains that I can only conclude, having to listen to this detritus of a debate, that those opposite hate Australians and hate Australia. They love Canada. What's happened to Canada's emissions? That's right; they went up by one per cent. What happened to Australia's emissions? They've gone down by 20 per cent. They love New Zealand over there. Their emissions went down by, that's right, one per cent. In Australia they've gone down by 20 per cent. Those opposite say they don't want to hear slogans; they want action. Well, we've done it. We've done something they could never ever do. When Kevin Rudd was Prime Minister he called this 'the great moral challenge of our time'—you may remember that, Deputy Speaker Llew O'Brien. And what did he do after that? He said: 'It's too hard. I'll see you later.' That's the Labor way: the minute it gets hard, they disappear, because they never want to be held accountable. They want to be in government but they don't want any of the responsibility. I listened carefully to the member for Robertson, who continues to complain about PEP-11. Let me tell you, member for Robertson: I didn't hear you complaining in 1999 when the Labor state government under Bob Carr gave them a licence— The DEPUTY SPEAKER ( Mr Llew O'Brien ): The member will direct his comments through the chair. Mr Leeser interjecting— Mr FALINSKI: Oh, Dobell—the member for Berowra is onto it! When the member for Dobell complains about PEP-11, she fails to mention she didn't complain about it when Bob Carr gave them a licence in 1999. She didn't complain when the member for Watson, who still sits in his House— An opposition member interjecting— Mr FALINSKI: Yes, I know you don't want to hear this. We're well aware you don't want to hear any facts. You don't want to hear about voter fraud. You don't want to hear about how our emissions have gone down. You don't want to hear about how this government has done something you never could—that is, announce net zero by 2050. If you take a point of order on me— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Is the member for Fremantle seeking the call? Mr Josh Wilson: I think I'm entitled to take a point of order, notwithstanding what the member thinks. He should be directing his comments through the chair. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have been listening. He made a comment, which I pulled him up on. Mr Josh Wilson: He just said 'you' about 30 times in a row! The DEPUTY SPEAKER: He is in order at the moment, but I'm keeping an eye on it. Mr FALINSKI: Someone needs to keep an eye on me! The member for Fremantle can't be left to the task; it's too big a task for one person! Thank you to you two for working together; we appreciate it. The fact is that we have done something they never could: we have signed up and committed to net zero. They run away every time the task gets hard. And when it comes to PEP 11, they renewed it and they signed the permit. We will stop it. That's what we will be committed to. That's what we are judged on—action. We've reduced emissions by 20 per cent. We've come up with a plan to get to net zero by 2050. I note that the member for McMahon went on social media yesterday and said, 'Where were the modern Liberals supporting the member for Warringah's bill that included a 60 per cent reduction on emissions by 2030?' As I asked the member for Warringah: 'Sixty per cent? Why not 70 per cent? Why not 80 per cent? Hell, why not 150 per cent?' If we're just going to start throwing numbers out there, why not go to, you know, 2,000 gazillion per cent? The fact is that, whenever you ask the one question that matters, which is how, 'How do you get to 60 per cent reduction by 2030?', no-one over there wants to talk about it. Then we get to modelling. Thank you very much for mentioning modelling. When it comes to modelling, they all say, 'Oh, there's no model. What was released in estimates is that they are writing the model up.' There is a model. The reason we won't release the model to you is that you wouldn't understand it—because models are numbers; they are not words. And I know that the member for Fraser knows this. The fact of the matter is that we have a situation where those opposite, who achieved nothing in government, can only throw mud, have no idea how they are going to achieve anything and are astroturfing their way. They think the Australian people won't notice the fraud committed at the electoral box and the fact that they want to allow it to go on unfettered and unchallenged, and the fraud they want to perpetrate on the Australian people through their lack of detail, their lack of commitment and their lack of heart on climate policy.