Mr HOGAN (Page—Assistant Minister to the Deputy Prime Minister and Assistant Minister for Local Government) (17:13): I ask leave of the House to move a motion for the appointment of members to certain committees. The SPEAKER: Is leave granted? Mr Burke: Could we have a copy of the list? I want to know what I'm granting leave for. Mr Albanese: We haven't got it, so we're not voting for it. We're not voting for it unless you tell us what it is. The SPEAKER: There are two things. One is whether leave is granted. The other is the question that is put at the end. I know tempers are a bit frayed, but normally leave is granted and then the minister has to move— Mr Burke: Sorry, Mr Speaker, I appreciate what normally happens. We've just had something happen that has never happened in the history of the Federation, which goes to a corruption issue. What normally happens is not the issue today. The SPEAKER: We won't keep debating the matter. Leave is either granted or it's not. Leave not granted.