Mr PORTER (Pearce—Attorney-General, Minister for Industrial Relations and Leader of the House) (14:51): I thank the member for her question because it gives me an opportunity to pick up exactly where I left off on the last occasion! And that was on the shadow Attorney-General—whose words I completely agree with—describing the complexity of dealing with an integrity commission. This is what the shadow Attorney-General said about that— The SPEAKER: No, the Attorney-General needs to be relevant to the question. It doesn't preclude him, I say, from quoting, where he's relating that material to why the government has taken a certain position. But, where he was crossing the line—where he was ending his previous answer when I was about to sit him down—was where he was moving beyond that. But, if he's quoting someone as explaining the complexity of a government position, that's fine. But I'll listen carefully. Mr PORTER: I think words like these, words I would join issue on, are a correct description of the difficulty and complexity of an integrity commission—words such as these: I think the lesson to be learned is that anti-corruption bodies are difficult to get right and must be very delicately designed. They are of a quantum akin to examination bodies and people cheating in exams, or matters of that nature. But the question also went to why the government has chosen not to engage in a consultation period around this very complicated integrity commission and has chosen to do other things. Why have we chosen to do other things? The government chose to focus all of the resources of government on dealing with a global pandemic which threatened hundreds of thousands and millions of Australian jobs. So what types of things were we focusing our time and energy on? We were looking at developing flexibilities inside the industrial relations system to save hundreds of thousands of jobs. We looked at passing privacy legislation so we could establish a COVIDSafe app which would allow states like New South Wales to successfully contact-trace. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Members on my left! Mr PORTER: Obviously, that's something that the members of the opposition would haven't done. They don't think that it's important to use these types of facilities to be able to contact-trace in these jurisdictions. We reformed bankruptcy laws to save hundreds of thousands of businesses and jobs in Australia. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Members will cease interjecting! Mr PORTER: JobKeeper, JobSeeker—ensuring that all of these things went to saving Australian jobs. Why would we do that? Because it seemed to us that that was completely the right set of priorities during this pandemic. What I would also note for the member for Sydney is that the work on the Integrity Commission, as I described yesterday, is actually already underway in this budget—in this budget—with the allocation of very substantial increases in funding to the Australian Commission for Law Enforcement Integrity, which will increase its ASL by 38 staff members so that it can be the first part of this Integrity Commission, which has to be designed carefully. When you are looking at something like examinations for tertiary students, that does not involve something as delicate and as important as the extent to which, if any, you have retrospectivity applying around the criminal law of the Commonwealth of Australia to activities that occurred before and to different standards. (Time expired)