Mr BURKE (Watson—Manager of Opposition Business) (12:38): Mr Speaker, a point of order. It goes to the operation of the chamber and an issue that affects all members. It goes to the use of the advisers' boxes on both sides. I won't mention names, but, on recent occasions, there's been an increasing tendency for some staff, when they come in, to not go to the advisers' box but to come right to the floor of the chamber to try to grab the attention of either the minister at the table or, in this case, the Clerk, and try to conduct direct negotiations. It would be helpful to the operation of the chamber, and also to preserve the fact that the focus of the chamber is on— Mr Snowdon interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Lingiari is not helping. The Manager of Opposition Business is articulating a point of view by way of a point of order, and I'd like to hear him without the cackle in the background. Mr Snowdon: Mr Speaker, I'd like to make a comment about it as well. The SPEAKER: You don't do that by way of interjection. As someone who's been in this House since 1987, you should be aware of that. Mr BURKE: Put simply—and I suspect I speak for all members—it would be helpful if a strong statement were made from the chair about the use of the advisers' boxes so the parliament can operate in its normal way. The SPEAKER: I thank the Manager of Opposition Business. As he'd appreciate, I only entered the chamber in the minutes after this was raised. I did see him raising it on a television in my office and came in anticipating the division in any event. I just want to be very clear about this. There have been issues over the years in both advisers' boxes, on the opposition and government sides. But I agree there has been an increasing tendency—I've dealt with a couple of issues myself. Just for clarity: the way this has worked over the years is, of course, that the government are responsible for their side and the opposition are responsible for their side, on the basis that the rules are very clear. They're advisers' boxes. There are attendants to take messages. That's why they're there. Ministers and shadow ministers and members can, of course, approach the advisers, but that's the way it works. Advisers—let me be very clear—cannot gesture, call, seek the assistance of a clerk or stand next to the advisers' box waiting for either an attendant or for a member of parliament to come to them. I want to be very clear about it. At the moment, of course, we have a maximum of three advisers in the box for the physical-distancing requirements, so, if there are three in the box and another adviser comes in, they're not to take a seat. They can certainly give a document to an attendant or a message to another adviser or can, obviously, swap into a seat that's there. I think it will help if this statement is very clear. Enough of you know that some of us have been advisers before. I managed to do it without incident for 10 years—so I don't think I'm being too hard—as did a number of others. Obviously, if there is a repeat on any side, now that I've made this statement, of advisers not complying with what are very clear rules—and I have to say it's a privilege to sit, essentially, next to the floor of the House—those advisers will not be allowed in the advisers' box for an unspecified period of time. Ms Swanson interjecting— The SPEAKER: What did the member for Paterson say? Ms Swanson interjecting— The SPEAKER: Yes, okay. Well, that's probably why you weren't taking the point of order.