Mr PYNE (Sturt—Minister for Defence and Leader of the House) (10:53): I'm going to refer to the Federation Chamber, Bob, so you can speak. Mr Katter: No, I don't want to speak in the Federation Chamber. The SPEAKER: The question is— Mr Katter: You can either gag me or let me go ahead. The SPEAKER: The Leader of the House. Mr PYNE: Well, I've got to ask leave, and he's not going to give leave, so he might as well speak. The SPEAKER: I'm just going to point out to the member: the debate's been adjourned on the motion— Mr Katter: No, I'm going to speak. I said no. The SPEAKER: You don't have the call. Mr Katter: I asked the indulgence of the Leader of the House, and he said yes. The SPEAKER: I'm just going to suggest to the member for Kennedy: he might let me finish a sentence. Mr Katter: Sorry, Mr Speaker. The SPEAKER: And the way he's going about it is no way to get an indulgence. The only way he will speak is on indulgence, and every member of this chamber would like to speak on this now, but we have a process and a procedure and a Federation Chamber. That's what it is for and, frankly, I am not going to put the member for Kennedy above other members in this place who would like to speak, including the member for Barton, who is here. The member for Kennedy has many opportunities to speak in this chamber, including in 90-second statements. I'm making it very clear that what he should do is what other members do—speak in the Federation Chamber. I'm not prepared to grant him indulgence at this point. I think that is fair and reasonable. Mr Katter: Mr Speaker, I consider I've been gagged. I'll have my say outside the chamber. The SPEAKER: That is the member for Kennedy's perfect right. Debate adjourned.