Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:11): Let's talk about the GP co-payment. The GP co-payment is a sensible measure from this government to try to make Medicare sustainable for the long term. How can members opposite insist that it is right to have a modest co-payment for the PBS and it is somehow wrong to have a modest co-payment for Medicare? It just does not add up. Ms Macklin interjecting— Mr ABBOTT: The member for Jagajaga likes to interject. Let me quote from the National Health Strategy. Mr Burke: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. Madam Speaker, I appreciate that there is a question you took on notice as a point of order yesterday relating to the lack of precedence around new standing order 68. The Prime Minister is now going to the exact same point— The SPEAKER: We do not know that. Mr Burke: and I think it would be wise to wait— Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: With respect, the fact of the matter is that I have said that I would take the question of the application of standing order 68 on notice—that is the paragraph to that standing order—and I will give a considered statement on that tomorrow. In the meantime, we will hear what the Prime Minister has to say. I do not think we can anticipate what he is going to say. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: We will see what he has to say. Mr ABBOTT: I am quoting from a document called the National Health Strategy. The National Health Strategy said: 'There is considerable pragmatic appeal in the use of co-payments.' Then I read on: For further information about the National Health Strategy contact Jenny Macklin, Director, National Health Strategy. So 'considerable pragmatic appeal in the use of co-payments'. But it does not stop there. Ms Owens: You don't care about the truth, do you? The SPEAKER: The member for Parramatta will desist. Mr ABBOTT: We know the direct ministerial author of the co-payments was a gentleman called Brian Howe, former Deputy Prime Minister. Jenny Macklin said of Brian Howe: Brian Howe, as many on this side will know, has been a wonderful source of inspiration to me … She went on to say: It is a great challenge now to be able to bring those ideas into this place. She did not have the guts to do that, but this government does.