Mr ANDREWS (Menzies—Minister for Social Services) (14:16): Madam Speaker— Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: The minister will resume his seat. Ms Macklin: It was only on Monday! The SPEAKER: The member for Jagajaga will desist. The question has been asked. We will have silence for the answer. The minister has the call. Mr Husic: I can't hear him—his foot's in his mouth! The SPEAKER: The member for Chifley is warned! Mr ANDREWS: Madam Speaker, all I can say to the member for Jagajaga is 'come in spinner', because the reality is that, contrary to the lies that are being peddled by the Labor Party around Australia, lies like this one from Senator Cameron, the pension will continue to increase and the pension supplement will continue to be paid. That is the reality. Mr Bowen: Madam Speaker, I raise a point of order. It is unparliamentary for the minister to accuse himself of being a liar. The SPEAKER: If the member for McMahon abuses the standing orders in that way again he will leave the chamber. The minister has the call. Mr ANDREWS: The first stage of the grieving process is denial, and hasn't the Labor Party got it in heaps—total denial that you engaged in deception and deceit on the Australian people. As the Treasurer pointed out, we are racing towards an accumulated debt of $25,000 for every man, woman and child in Australia. Why don't you get real and face up to the situation that you left this country in? Why don't you face up to it rather than sitting there with this rabble of denial that we continue to get from the Labor Party? The reality is pensions will continue to rise in March and September— Mr Burke: Madam Speaker, I raise a point of order. Mr ANDREWS: They have had a point on relevance, Madam Speaker. The SPEAKER: The minister has the call. Mr Burke: Madam Speaker— The SPEAKER: What is the point of order? Mr Burke: I am genuinely loath to interrupt, but he should speak through the chair rather than directing his remarks at you. The SPEAKER: That is a reasonable point of order, and the minister will direct his remarks through the chair. Mr ANDREWS: Madam Speaker, I would hate to accuse you of misleading the Australian people like the Labor Party is; but that is what is happening. So, in their total state of denial, you have people like Senator Cameron running around Australia trying to scare the pensioners of Australia that they are going to lose their pensions and that they are going to lose their pension supplement. The reality is in March of this year the pensions went up between about $10 and $15 for Australian pensioners, they will go up again in September of this year, they will go up again in March of next year and in September of next year, and the year after and the year after and the year after. That is the reality. And the pension supplement will be maintained and the pension supplement will increase in September this year. So it is about time that the Leader of the Opposition showed some gumption and some leadership and told Senator Cameron to stop this pattern of behaviour of running around and pretending that something is the case which is not the case for the pensioners of Australia. Shame on the Labor Party. Ms Macklin: Madam Speaker, I understand the ruling you made earlier this week— The SPEAKER: Well, get on with the point of order. Ms Macklin: but I do seek leave to table the transcript of the minister on Monday—he does not seem to remember what he said. The SPEAKER: The member will resume her seat. Mr Nikolic: Madam Speaker, on a point of order, is it within the standing orders for the jovial fellow, Bill Shorten's adviser, in the advisers box over there to be gesticulating wildly and laughing uproariously and engaging himself in the debate of the House? Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: There will be silence. It is time that we had some decorum here. People are watching, as I said yesterday, in the galleries. They cannot hear what the questions being asked are. The member for Denison has an important question to ask. And those people who sit in the advisers box—I have not been able to see their pleasant faces this afternoon, but if they are gesticulating they shall desist. The member for Denison has the call. Mr Mitchell: Madam Speaker, on the point of order— Government members interjecting— Mr Mitchell: when the creepy little collection over there shuts up, perhaps the member for Bass and his friend in front of him may not want to be trying to engage advisers that are sitting in the box. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order, and it would be a good idea to withdraw or shut up, please. Mr Mitchell: Withdraw or shut up? The SPEAKER: I call the honourable member for Denison.