Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (14:32): There are no free rides in Australia for people who want to use—like everybody else, whether it's big tech— Senator McKim interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator McKim! Senator McKim: What about the PRRT? That's a— Senator AYRES: It seems the usual behavioural problem is replicated again down here. The PRESIDENT: Minister Ayres, please resume your seat. Senator McKim, come to order. Minister, please continue. Senator AYRES: As the Attorney-General said first in October last year and has repeated consistently since, the government is not considering a text- and data-mining exception for Australia. We are not considering that as an option for Australia. We stand firmly behind Australia's creative industries and will continue to do so. The PRESIDENT: Senator Lambie, second supplementary?