Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (14:59): Thank you, Senator Brown. I think we got a fair bit of exposure to what the alternative views are just a minute ago. We say as a government that energy security, fuel security, is industrial policy; it is economic policy. It means, as our unreliable coal-fired power station system collapses around its ears because of the failure of the show over there, that we need to rebuild our electricity system in a responsible way. It's not the way of One Nation and some of their friends in the Nationals and the Liberals; they're retweeting propaganda. While we've got to a position, in this country, where our fuel reserves are the best they've been for 15 years, far-right extremist scaremongering from over there has had people lining up at petrol stations when there was no need. People over there talk about war profiteers. The show over here are political war profiteers. They love creating a sense of crisis, they love creating a sense of drama and— The PRESIDENT: Senator Nampijinpa Price? Senator Nampijinpa Price: President, could you please ask the senator to address his answers through the chair? The PRESIDENT: I certainly will; thank you, Senator. Minister Ayres? Senator AYRES: The Morrison government did more than any other government, with Mr Taylor leading on energy, to undermine Australia's energy policy security. The dimmest bulbs in that government then came to occupy the frontbench during the course of the last term, and the architects of last term's genius economic policy, the low-watt dim wattage bulbs, are now in charge. The shadow ERC of last term are the geniuses who are now in charge of driving this show right over a cliff. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie? Senator McKenzie: As much as I want to recall sitting on that side of the chamber, this minister— The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, resume your seat! That's twice I've had to call you today. You are well accustomed to the standing orders. You don't just stand up and start to make a statement. Minister Ayres, I think your time has expired. Senator Brown, first supplementary?