The PRESIDENT (15:44): I think 'believe' is the wrong term to use. I sought the advice of the Clerk. I was advised and I did explain, perhaps not as clearly when you asked your question but certainly when Senator McKenzie asked hers, that it is not within the portfolio of the ministers in this chamber to make comment on the management of the House of Representatives. Therefore, it was outside of their portfolios, and I advised you and Senator McKenzie at the time that I sought the advice of the Clerk. Senator Ruston: I understand and I refer to this point on that matter. The matter that Senator McKenzie and I were trying to determine was an action that was taken by the Labor Party, the executive, the government of this country in relation to an action that had been taken in this place. Yesterday afternoon the Senate made a determination in relation to— Senator Gallagher: Is this a point of order? Senator Ruston: I'm seeking clarification— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, your question went to matters in the House. It went to matters in the House. Senator Ruston: I'm seeking clarification. The matter actually related to an action that took place in this chamber yesterday afternoon. Could you give me some direction as to where we would direct that question? The PRESIDENT: I have given you direction, and this is the last time I'm going to do it because I have made my decision. You are either dissenting from my decision or accepting it. I was very clear that the matter that you were referring to was about the management of the House. It's irrelevant where a motion may or may not have been passed. Your question went directly to what you allege were threats made in the House. That is what I responded to. On the advice of the Clerk, it is outside their portfolio. Now, I have answered the question. If you have further questions, I would invite you to write to me.