Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (14:15): There was a model that incorporated this principle, where firms that had a responsibility for pollution would make a contribution. It was there for this Senate to vote on in 2009, and I remember the Greens political party and this rabble over here voting it down and delaying energy action and investment for another two decades. The PRESIDENT: Senator Faruqi, second supplementary?