Senator HANSON (Queensland—Leader of Pauline Hanson's One Nation and Pauline Hanson's One Nation Whip) (10:24): I've been trying to listen to this debate and, in all fairness, what I do believe is that it should be as it is. This should be raised at Senate estimates so people can ask questions of the ministers and departments. There are grave concerns about what is happening, and if you want accountability then you must be responsible to questions put forward by all political parties and Independents. The amount of money that is spent on the Aboriginal affairs department is over $30 billion a year. We've got 1,258 Aboriginal corporations that have not reported to ORIC. There is no accountability. We have had corruption, and I've raised in this parliament about a person who has dealt with the aged care who was found to be corrupt. There is not enough accountability. Actually, I attended a meeting with the minister, Malarndirri, and it was supposed to be open discussion there. The minister hardly spoke at all. It was Pat Turner, from the Coalition of Peaks, who actually did all the talking. The minister couldn't answer all the questions. This is a minister that, I believe, is not doing her job properly to represent those Aboriginals. During the problems that we have, closing the gap has been a huge, big issue. What have they done now? They've closed the gap on only four out of 19 issues. We constantly hear about the incarceration. We hear about people who do not attend schooling. We hear about the domestic violence. We hear about the sexual abuse of children. This has been going on for years, not only under this government but also under the previous government. I've been speaking about it for the last 30 years, but nothing's changed, nothing's happening. I come across Aboriginals who are crying out, who want that assistance, want that help. But you're not listening to them. It's all closed shop. You're taking it from the elites—those people who want to claim they are Indigenous. Really? Are they truly Indigenous? Are they truly representing the true Indigenous people out there? You've got your voice in parliament here with the 11 members of parliament who claim to be Indigenous. But are you really representing the average Aboriginal out there that lives in remote and regional areas? Are you getting them the funding? It doesn't appear that way. What's happening is it's getting worse. You have no answers to it. You won't be accountable to the Australian people for the money that is put into this Aboriginal industry. You now have the activists. Although the Australian people have voted against the Voice, you are now pushing— The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson, please resume your seat. Senator Wong? Senator Wong: On a point of order, I did give Senator Hanson the courtesy, and I'd ask— Senator Ruston interjecting— Senator Wong: Well, Senator, thank you; I will remember that. I gave you the courtesy. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson, please continue. Senator HANSON: I— Senator Ruston interjecting— Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Hanson, please resume your seat. Senators Wong and Ruston, I've asked you to come to order. Senator Hanson. Senator HANSON: My concern is for the Aboriginal people, those kids that are not getting the education. We find that now their educational level is going up to six or seven and then they're dropping out. We're not preparing them for the future as well. Why do we pay people? Why did you get rid of the card? That was actually working. But as soon as Labor got in you got rid of it. Now you've got an organisation—they have not accepted the decision by the Australian people to get rid of the Voice. They are now organising to keep that going. You've got treaties, division that's happening in Australia. Why? It's because you won't stand up to and acknowledge the problem that is happening. I've never seen so much division happening in Australia as under this government. We never had it before. It's just escalated. And the hatred that was out there—you talk about incarceration. If you commit the crime then you've got to actually be punished for it. Talk to the kids about resilience. Through the chair: the minister laughs about this. The minister thinks it's a joke. It's not a joke. These people's lives are being destroyed. But you have to be accountable. The parents don't send the kids to schools. You're setting them up for failure, and that's a problem that's happening there—the sexual abuse that goes on. What's done about it? Nothing, because you can't do anything about it, because you're going to be called a racist. When are we going to wake up to ourselves in this place, to treat everyone equally on an individual needs basis and not based on what race you are? That is what's divisive in this nation. We are all Australians together, whether you migrated or whether you were born here. When are we going to get over the fact that you've got be Indigenous or non-Indigenous? We're dividing this nation, our land, and the people in this place are responsible for that.