Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for Finance, Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Women, Minister for Government Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:57): The gall of these people over there, honestly, to give us a lecture about tax when they went to the last election saying they were going to increase taxes for everybody. You were going to increase taxes in relation to EV vehicles, you didn't support the HECS debt reductions and you were going to raise income tax. I mean, seriously, all of a sudden the opposition, which sought to be in government with their major policy being to increase taxes, is now so concerned about what we might do. Senator McKenzie: My point of order is on relevance. My question went to fall in living standards and the impact that their increased taxes will have on that. The PRESIDENT: The minister is being relevant to your question. Senator GALLAGHER: In relation to some of those other areas at the roundtable, we discussed trade; better regulation; approvals and speeding up approvals; building more homes more quickly; making AI a national priority; looking at how we attract investment; building a skilled and adaptable workforce and modernising government services, which I am pleased to do; and, at the same time, ensuring that we are addressing those areas of need for all Australians. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, second supplementary?