Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:41): General Campbell was appointed to the role because he has the experience and skills to advance Australia's interests in the role, which includes engagement with NATO, which is obviously particularly relevant at the moment. In relation to the details you ask for, I will see if I can obtain them before the end of question time. If I can't, I will make sure that we provide you with those. My recollection is that the terms of his engagement are as is standard for that particular post. The PRESIDENT: Senator Lambie, first supplementary?