Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:15): Senator, I know that your policy is to cut $315 billion from the budget, but we don't take the view that at time when Australians are struggling, what we should be doing is cutting health. We don't take the view that what we should be doing is putting downward pressure on wages. We don't take the view that we should be saying, 'No, we won't fund urgent care clinics.' The problem is, Senator Hume, that your policy prescription will do nothing other than make things harder for everyday Australians. That is the reality. Your policy prescription would make things harder— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator Hume interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. I'm surprised, Senator Hume. I demanded there be silence when you asked your question. I invited you to re-put your question and I restarted the clock. I've called your side to order and you in particular, and you have continued that interjection. That's rude and disorderly and I expect you to listen in silence—and Senator McGrath. Minister Wong. Senator WONG: There is no doubt about two things. First is the budget position that we inherited had hundreds of billions of deficits—six years worth—more than $300 billion and an average deficit of $50 billion. Under this government, we turned two of those big Liberal deficits into two substantial surpluses. The other truth is you want wages to be lower— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Hume, a second supplementary question?