Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:42): I think it should be clear from my first answer, Senator Pocock, that the Albanese government is ambitious in this area. The whole structure behind Future Made in Australia is all about developing our homegrown technologies, our homegrown ideas, so that we can transform those ideas into prosperity. We want to work with all those groups in our community that are interested in achieving these ambitious goals. So the short answer to your question, I think, is: no, there are no differences there. We are both very ambitious. Of course, we are very lucky to have a minister like Minister Husic in this area, who is devoted to achieving the best possible result for our research. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Pocock, second supplementary?