Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:47): Fundamentally you don't agree with it, and you're asking me a question about a hypothetical. We are focused on delivering it. Senator Waters: It's not a hypothetical. Senator WONG: It is a hypothetical. I'll take the interjection from the Leader of the Greens in the Senate. It is a hypothetical. 'If this doesn't happen, then' is by definition— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Shoebridge, I call you to order. Senator WONG: By definition it's a hypothetical—'if this doesn't happen, then'. My point is: the reason that the Australian— The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator Shoebridge. Senator Shoebridge: If I had asked a hypothetical, it would have been out of order. My question was directed to what's in the agreement. The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge, that is a debating point. Please resume your seat. Senator WONG: I again make the point that this treaty will go through the normal processes before ratification, go through the normal process of scrutiny within the parliament. I'm sure Senator Shoebridge will be very active through that process. But I again make this point: the Australian Greens do not support the acquisition of a new submarine capability, so we all know why these questions are being asked. (Time expired)