Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (15:21): I thank the Leader of the National Party for his question. I am very happy to name people who are in support of pricing carbon. Opposition members interjecting— Ms GILLARD: For example, there is former Prime Minister Howard. For example, there is former Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser. For example, there is former Liberal leader Malcolm Turnbull. For example, there is former Liberal leader Brendan Nelson. For example, there is Andrew Peacock, who took a cut in emissions to an election. And the list goes on and on. As I understand it, the Leader of the Opposition— Opposition members: Name one premier! The SPEAKER: Order! The Prime Minister has the call. She will be heard in silence. Mr Schultz: Premier Wen Jiabao! The SPEAKER: The member for Hume is warned! Ms GILLARD: My understanding is that the Leader of the Opposition is the only living national Liberal leader in this country who is opposed to a price on carbon. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Ms GILLARD: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition interjected 'pathetic' before— Mr Hockey interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for North Sydney is warned! Ms GILLARD: and, yes, it is. The Leader of the Opposition has allowed his political negativity to mean that he has turned his back on the Liberal tradition of— Ms Julie Bishop interjecting— The SPEAKER: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition is warned! Ms GILLARD: successful prime ministers like John Howard. They have walked away from that tradition because they are preferring the path of negativity to putting an idea in the nation's interest. Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! I declare a general warning! Ms GILLARD: And then, of course, I was asked about who I can name who supports carbon pricing. Let me actually go— Mr Baldwin interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Paterson is named! Mr ALBANESE: I move: That the member for Paterson be suspended from the service of the House. Question put. The House divided. [15:28] (The Speaker—Mr Harry Jenkins) Question negatived. The SPEAKER: After question time, I will be taking the time to consider my position.