Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:32): I thank Senator Pocock for his question. Of course, what we'll see in the budget tonight is what we're all waiting to see. I think your question is asking me to anticipate the Treasurer's comments. The PRESIDENT: Senator Pocock, on a point of order? Senator David Pocock: President, I don't know if this goes to relevance, but this is a pre-budget announcement— The PRESIDENT: Just a moment, Senator Pocock. Please resume your seat. I have a senator on his feet for a point of order. I expect there to be silence so I can hear the point. Senator Pocock? Senator David Pocock: President, I'm not sure if this goes to relevance, but it's this bizarre situation where the government make all these pre-budget announcements and, when asked about them, they say, 'We can't foreshadow what's in the budget,' even though they've told us what's in the budget. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Pocock. You could've have simply asked me about relevance and not made a statement. The minister is being relevant. Please continue, Senator Farrell. Senator FARRELL: Thank you, President. I don't want to foreshadow what the Treasurer is going to say in what will be another wonderful Albanese government budget. But I can say this: the Albanese government does believe that everyone deserves a safe and secure place to call home. After a decade— Senator McKenzie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator FARRELL: Well, Senator McKenzie, after a decade of no action under the former coalition government, the latest data from the ABS shows that the number of people experiencing homelessness has climbed by 6,000 people between 2016 and 2021. And, of course, it is unacceptable that almost 123,000 Australians were reported as experiencing homelessness in the most recent data. Your question related particularly to the ACT. Of course the ACT will share in the new $9.3 billion national agreement on social housing and homelessness, incorporating a $423 million increase on the previous agreement. And— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Pocock, first supplementary?