Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (16:21): I've just explained to you the consultation process that has gone on. We continue to have discussions about this. But the reality, Senator Cox—and it beggars belief that the Greens can't understand that—is that you can't turn a switch, turn gas off, and turn renewable energy on. You cannot do that. It's impossible to do it. So in the meantime— The PRESIDENT: Senator Cox, on a point of order? Senator Cox: The point of order is on relevance. I asked why this government, who said they wanted a Voice to parliament, are now denying First Nations people who want to oppose these gas projects on their own country and in sea country, why this government is doing that actively? The PRESIDENT: I believe the minister is being relevant. I will continue to listen carefully. Senator FARRELL: The reality is we are not going to get to net zero overnight. There needs to be a transition from where we are at the moment. We are engaging. This is the government that supported a Voice to parliament for Indigenous Australians. In my home state of South Australia this weekend, the state government— (Time expired)