Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:16): I thank Senator Cash for the question. I can confirm that the ABF and the AFP are doing everything that we have asked them to do, in the laws that have passed this place, to keep the community safe. As I would remind those opposite, it took, I think, three years, under HRTO, to put a case before the courts—a successful case. The officials will do the work that they need to do. They have been working on this day and night. You are the ones that try to play politics and undermine— The PRESIDENT: Minister Gallagher, please resume your seat. Senator Cash? Senator Cash: Again, the point of order is in relation to relevance. The question was in relation to the government making application for preventive detention, not officials, and the minister confirming that the number of applications made by the government is still zero. It is a simple yes or no. Is it zero or not? The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Cash. I believe the minister is being relevant, and I will continue to listen carefully to her response. Senator GALLAGHER: I think that was more of a debating point from Senator Cash— Senator Cash: It's not a debating point; it's a point of relevance. Senator GALLAGHER: Yes, it was. You make your point. The government's preventive detention and community safety order regime is modelled, as we know, on the coalition's HRTO scheme. Under HRTO it took more than three years for the first continuing detention order application. Those opposite would know, because they created it. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash, second supplementary?