Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:14): The same amount they would have spent if Mr Dutton was still the home affairs minister. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator McKenzie! Senator Cash, I have reminded you before about clapping. This is not a football stadium. It is question time. Your responses should be respectful, and you should listen to the minister in silence. Senator Liddle, a second supplementary?