Senator LAMBIE (Tasmania) (14:41): Minister, this morning we have seen further reports that the Australian Defence Force has stuffed up another ship procurement. The $45 billion—that's right, $45 billion—taxpayer funded Hunter class frigate program is under fire, yet again, from the ANAO for being 'poor value for money'. AUKUS is a multi-decade program set to cost 10 times what the frigates will cost. Minister, how can the Australian people possibly have any confidence that AUKUS won't be just another stuff-up?