Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:47): I think we've made clear that we do support the aquaculture industry, including the Tasmanian salmon industry, but we've also said that the industry needs to continue to demonstrate that it can operate in a sustainable and responsible manner. I note that, just as some on one side of the debate will say that any environmental regulation is anti job, on the other side of the debate, you have some, on your side of the debate, who've seemed to assert— Senator Whish-Wilson: No, there's been no regulation. The PRESIDENT: Senator Whish-Wilson, you've asked your question. Senator Whish-Wilson interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Order, Senator Whish-Wilson. You've asked your question. The minister is answering. Minister Wong, please continue. Senator WONG: We're back to binaries again. I know that it is politically easy and useful for campaigning to— Senator Whish-Wilson: You have a zero extinction target! The PRESIDENT: Senator Whish-Wilson, I've called you to order! Senator Whish-Wilson interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Whish-Wilson! Senator Whish-Wilson! Minister, please continue. Senator WONG: Again, I understand that there are some who have a very clear view about 'yay' or 'nay'. I think that it is possible, with goodwill and good scientific evidence, to try and ensure that industries operate sustainably, and that is a good thing for the environment and for jobs. (Time expired)